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Subject: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by Hogblue | 05/04/01 at 13:42:59
??? After being away from music for 20 years, needless the electronics have been overwhelming. I have a mackie 1604 vlz-pro and a yamaha dm8. I am trying to record eight channels from the mackie to the eight line/mic input on the yamaha. What I have lost in my attemps is the effects from the loop on the mackie. No matter what I have tried I end up with a recording on the yamaha with no effects. What am I doing wrong?
Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by Maury | 05/04/01 at 14:27:12
Hi hogblue - I have a Yamaha MD8, but not that Mackie board. I suspect that the Mackie gives you the choice of where to route the effects. If I'm right, and you're hearing the effects in your monitors when your going from Mackie to Yamaha, that would mean the FX return is routed to the monitor (or cue) mix. You'd need to assign (or route) the FX return to the main outs, so that they will go to the MD8 along with the rest of the music. I'll head over to Mackie's homepage to see if I can help you further. good luck,
MAury
yeah, it looks like you'll go into the stereo aux return section, bring the return levels to unity, and select that they're sent to "main mix". maybe you had them sent to "control room only" and that enables you to audition the FX without committing them to tape. let us know if we can help clarify anything... happy recording.
Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by Gary | 05/04/01 at 16:52:40
If you are using the direct outs that is probably why you are not getting any effects
into the md8.
Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by Kyle Mann | 05/04/01 at 17:16:53
I'm not familiar with the yamaha recorder (I'm still an analog guy,) but I have spent some time on the Mackie, so I hope I can help... I'm assuming that you're using the 8 tape-outs on the back of the Mackie. While they ARE post-fader, they're enirely out of the FX loop. This would explain why you're tracks are recorded dry.
Try only using four of the Mackie's tape outs to tracks one through four. These tracks will be dry, but that can certainly be a good thing (remember that you can always add effects later.) Then, use the four subgroups as your tape outs to tracks five through eight. Think of these almost as alternate main outs. All you have to do is assign each channels to a group by pressing those nice little buttons near the fader and panning to the appropriate group. By doing this, you could effectively track all the drums (with FX) to subgroups 1 and 2... Perhaps keeping the bass drum on a seperate track, so that you can seat it into the mix later on. Just make sure that none of the direct-out channels are assigned to subgroups.
Anywho, I hope this helps (man, that sounds cheezy!)
Take care,
Kyle
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Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by Maury | 05/04/01 at 17:52:52
Sorry hogblue - these guys are right - I never even looked to see that the mackie doesn't have 8 busses! My bad.
Maury
Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by pcrecord | 05/04/01 at 21:21:29
I may have said it too much time ;
Why not waiting for the mix. If you track with effects you won't be able to remove them later !
Of course you want to have an idea how it's gonna sound, so put temporary effects when tracking, record from direct out and get the cleanest track you can. So at mix down you can experiment with different mix technics and then decide what you like the most.
So WAIT FOR THE MIX !!
;)
Subject: Re: Mackie 1604 vlz-pro
by muzikmaker | 05/05/01 at 09:44:05
That Mackie board has direct outs which bypass effects. Your input signal is being routed to the direct outs which you've connected to the inputs of your recorder. That's so you can have a dry signal on your recorder and add effects later for max flexibility. While recording, you're hearing the effects from the monitor circuit so you can see what they sound like as you record....but they're not being recorded onto your recorder. hope this helps.