| Home recording and general music post from the archived Yabb Recording Website Message Board. Some of the info here may be outdated but many of the audio recording and home studio tips are still good. Note: The only tags I made and attempt to convert are italics, bold, center and underline. So if you see some gibberish surrounded by brackets, just ignore it.
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Febuary 2001 Yabb Message Board Archive
Subject: vocals and such..
by John | 04/05/01 at 09:06:57
Hello everyone!
I'm working on a project and learning how to engineer as I go. It's mainly moody music with drums, bass, acoustic guitar and piano. I'm ready to record the vocals on a track, but need some guidance. Can anyone please give me a few tips on how to get a good recording and how to apply eq's, reverb, etc to get it to fit in the mix well? I'm using a Rode NT1 condenser and recording with Logic Platinum. The song is slower and the vocals are passionate and desperate (at least they are supposed to be;)). Any pointers would be much obliged!
Thanks!
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by DanS | 04/05/01 at 10:27:52
Have got a pre-amp for the Rode? It will sound much better with one. You should just concentrate on trying to capture a great vocal performance for starters. You won't be able to start thinking about eq's & effects until you have something to sit in the mix, and see how it interplays with the other instruments.;)
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by John | 04/05/01 at 11:32:02
Would you recommend a pre-amp over mixer phantom power?
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by Haywire | 04/05/01 at 13:02:03
Don't confuse the use of phantom power with using a preamp. Phantom power is simply the current you send to your condenser mic to enable it to work. A mic preamp allows you to shape the sound of the signal (in this case your vocal) prior to it reaching the input of your recorder. Using a mic preamp can make a whole lot of difference in how your vocals sound, as well as other instruments that you may be recording. In addition,most preamps are equiped with phantom power. You can use that, or the phantom power on the board you have.
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by Tim_Z | 04/05/01 at 13:43:55
First, tell us what you are using for a mixer/mic pre now, and then we can tell you if a dedicated mic preamp will be a worth while investment. If you're using a Mackie VLZ Pro now, they are pretty darn good mic pre's in their own right, so unless you purchase a $1,200+ mic pre, you aren't going to gain too much.
DanS is on the right track when he says work on the performance first. That is where you are going to achieve what you are looking for.
Good Luck
Tim Z
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by John | 04/05/01 at 14:26:01
I'm only using a Behringer 1604. I found a 99$ ART Tube preamp. Think that would sound nice? I know that tube sound very good with guitar stuff.
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by DanS | 04/06/01 at 10:38:11
I have the ART Tube PAC, which has the pre and compressor integerated. While far from one of the better units, it gets the job done for me. I only use it on vocals & acoustic instruments. Both my guitar players are using PODS now.8)
Subject: Re: vocals and such..
by Danuco | 04/14/01 at 22:12:37
I think your behringer mixer is enough for what you need.
I dont believe this art pre would make any diference for what you have.
I have a behringer mx2004 and it is doing the job for me!
If you really want a big difference from your behringer mx so you will need to spend lot of money in a great preamp.