| Home recording and general music post from the archived Yabb Recording Website Message Board. Some of the info here may be outdated but many of the audio recording and home studio tips are still good. Note: The only tags I made and attempt to convert are italics, bold, center and underline. So if you see some gibberish surrounded by brackets, just ignore it.
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Febuary 2001 Yabb Message Board Archive
Subject: SubT VII Lyrics...
by Jt | 02/21/01 at 08:49:17
Greetings to the group:
My name is John Hagius. I'm the lucky lyricist over on Dan's Freedom Exchange board, whose song was chosen for SubT VII. I am really honored, and want to thank you all for making the contest possible, and for letting me be a part of this project.
This is a terrific site, and I am very impressed by the quality of your previous SubT offerings. Wow! I've got a little Fostex X-14 multi-track, nTrack Studio, and Cool Edit - all of which I've played around with a bit. But, I'm really clueless when it comes to recording, so maybe I can pick up a few pointers hanging around here :-)
Anyway, I guess the drill is for me to sit back now and let the real magic happen. If a minor rewrite is within the scope of the contest rules, I've seen some things I might tweek - and would certainly entertain suggestions from the composers. I absolutely love the process of internet collaboration. However, some of you have already started, so perhaps I'd best just be quiet now.
I really look forward to getting to know you guys, and perhaps working with some of you on future collabs. Thanks again, and take care.
Jt
Subject: Re: SubT VII Lyrics...
by old_dan | 02/23/01 at 05:47:47
Hey James,
congrats on winning. and glad to have you here.
Thanks for clearing up the minor rewrite thing. I was going to ask about that. I think you should have total say over any changes to the lyrics tho.
And if you want to colab with someone go for it. Hooper's looking for a partner. That would be cool if the winner and the guy that started it all teamed up :) Anyone opposed?
Take care,
Dan
Subject: Re: SubT VII Lyrics...
by Steve_S. | 02/23/01 at 06:05:53
[size=3]...sounds good Dan and welcome to the board John!! ;)[/size]
Subject: Re: SubT VII Lyrics...
by Kevin | 02/23/01 at 07:03:31
Hi there John!
I think it would be cool if you submitted your version of the song alone or in collaboration with some one like Hooper. (Hooper would be a good choice he is good, very good) That way we would see what was going through your head when you wrote it and you would get some experiance recording. The only way to get good at recording is just do it.
Subject: Re: SubT VII Lyrics...
by Percy | 02/23/01 at 09:38:14
Hey John
Congrats again on the contest. It would be cool to have you on the cd as well.If you are worried about your recording chops, team up with Hooper like the others said.He's got it down good. A universal question I think others may ask as well....can I/we throw a third chorus in after the third verse before the tag? My copy of the lyrics has no third chorus and I was wondering...yaddayaddayadda.
Later
Percy
Subject: Re: SubT VII Lyrics...
by Jt | 02/23/01 at 11:02:59
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies. This seems like a great group!
I think I may have unclear in my original post. I'm not qualified, musically or recording-skill wise, to participate in that end of this CD. I do play passable fingerstyle acoustic guitar - but if I was to be included on the CD, the deadline would have to be extended to 2002! :)
I usually write lyrics with guitar in hand - but this one was written "dry". I honestly (and intentionally) have no thoughts as to music or arrangement. You all have free reign there.
I would like to post a rewrite of the lyrics, however. There are several glaring weak spots that I have noted or that have been pointed out to me. For example, a canoe cannot be "adrift" and "lodged in rocks" at the same time. That was a lazy line on my part, which should be fixed. I also think the chorus, as written, is pretty lame. I'd like to extend it to six lines, to set it more apart from the verses and bridge. I don't want to work it to death, but would like to fix some of the more serious flaws, if that's ok with you guys.
Percy - as to your question. Feel free to stick in a repeated chorus or music break or whatever you, as a composer, think is needed. I realize this might be a tough lyric for certain styles. Words like "Perched atop" are kinda poetic, and may not fit some genres. I'm open to changes and suggestions - maybe all the versions don't need to have the exact same lyric... what do you all think?
I have had experience collaborating as a lyricist with several composers, and have found it to be an enjoyable experience. (As soon as geocities gets their act together, my site should be working again, and you can give a listen if you're interested. ) This song, being a group effort and contest and all, probably doesn't have the same lattitude for back-and-forth feedback as those individual collabs had. But, as I said, I'm open to any suggestions, and I hope noone out there feels constained to write to the lyric exactly as written.
Hooper - thanks for the nice e-mail. But I'll sit back and listen and learn from this one. I have other "dry" lyrics waiting, and hopefully more where they came from. So who knows what future collabs may develop.
I encourage you all to keep checking Dan Gray's site if you're mining for lyrics. Some real gems turn up there from time to time :-)
Thanks again!
Jt