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Posted by Puke on July 16, 2000 at 10:23:53:

In Reply to: I beg to differ! posted by Big D on July 16, 2000 at 07:17:19:

I thought it was obvious I was referring to
studio recording (live to tape, if you will),
not live in person at the local rehearsal studio,
or anything like that.But, yes, you guessed it, live
in front of your console while "they" are out
there in the tracking rooms.
YES, assume there is a
microphone in front of what needs to be miked, etc.,
, and yes,
assume there is a console, limiters, etc., and
it is going in final form to tape of some form or another.

By the way, referring to the "tone" you mention
..Analog "tape" does add a slight amount
of tape compression,
but an analog signal itself does not become a
certain "tone" just because it's analog. It was
already that way--because analog is what it all
is to start with. One major exception is
unless, of course, you're going
through anything tube, which will
always add a small
amount of tube compression/distortion--
whether you think so or not--it's always there,
and nearly always cool.

I thought someone may have taken that wrong after
I posted it, but what the hell.One more comment
about "live". I'm assuming you are not referring
to an old 1935 accoustic guitar as sounding harsh
live (if you are you need your ears checked), but
are referring (for the most part)
to amplified sounds. Part of that
is probably due to the ear not being a real flat
listening device throughout all decibel ranges. Hear
me out before you pass this off. The first "harsh"
sound that I would think you are referring to
would be an old hiwatt or marshall all the way up
set to sound good while recording. You are right
that it sounds harsh in person IF YOU ARE ONLY RUNNING
ONE OR TWO 4X12 SPEAKER CABINETS. If you plug in
six more cabinets (may need to do some custom wiring
on your speakers so the impedence does not come
out so low you fry your tubes in the first ten
minutes) you now have eight. Turn it up all the
way and now it sounds amazingly mellow, JUST LIKE
ON TAPE, you can put the mike almost anywhere, near
or far, in the soundpath, and you get the same
sound, and you can walk almost anywhere in the room
and hear the same sound also. What had changed,nothing
except that you don't have to stick your head in
front of a 118db spkr to hear the presence, or not
hear anything at all.
(by the way, I'm talking about an old british
amp with NO master volume, I think most of the new
ones sound like shit no matter how you tweek them).

Again, I WAS referring to a recording studio, realizing
that I'd like to find some good converters that
are truly exceptional, and since everyone I know
who was in the business has long since retired, I
cannot ask anyone I know what their might be. I suppose
I'll end up with some of this newfangled "pick your
own sampling rate" stuff that is supposed to be
coming out. I figure by the time it hits 188K it
should be pretty good, and even if the standard is
still 44.1,, being a multiple of 44.1, the
quality lost from dithering will be minimul or
non-existent.

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Follow Ups:

• Re: I meant live to 2 track, if you will, including all the limiters and everything that goes with. Big D 21:57:56 7/16/00 (1)
  • Actually, my hearing is semi-shot already and I'm not quite in my 50s. Puke 22:53:36 7/16/00 (0)

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